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A Question of Evidence

August 3, 2009

A while ago I was engaged with a group of scientists in a discussion concerning the question of evolution versus creation. During that time I heartily agreed that there is much fossil evidence dealing with past civilizations. In fact I have never doubted it for a moment. But the basic question boils down to the conclusion that each side comes to.

Before I get to conclusions, let me give you an example of some evidencethat was presented to me by a gentleman who goes by the title “Wintermute.” Wintermute gave me some extensive evidence concerning a fossil titled H. Antecessor stating “here are 550 papers on which you dismiss with And they got all this from two pieces of a face despite the fact that your own text indicates that one single find consisted of 80 fossils from 6 individuals.”  While I agree that there were 80 fossils which were concluded to have come from 6 individuals (and you can view these scholarly papers here at http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=%22Homo%20antecessor%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=ws ) it is the conclusion that was arrived at that troubles me. Again understand that there were  8o fossils and these fossils indeed belonged to a real living creature or creatures. There can be no disputing this fact! But the truth still remains that someone was able to ‘manufacture’ a face from two pieces of bone which you can actually view  at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_antecessor.  After seeing the ‘evidence’ you can understand that it takes quite the imagination to create a whole civilization from the ‘evidence which was gathered from only 2 sites. 

The next fossil for which there is evidence as well as 1,500 papers concerns H. Heidelbergensis which again you can view and study for yourselves at  http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=%22Homo+heidelbergensis%22&btnG=Search  Now with H. Heidelbergensis, there is again indisputable fossil evidence for a living creature. Those 1,500 papers document the evidence which was very well researched! But again, the conclusion is the key. Evolutionists take the evidence and see Darwinian evolution taking place…that H. Heidelbergensis is a precursor, a ancestor to modern man.  

Are they right?

I mean those on the Evolutionary side declare that they have heaps of evidence. So who is right? Were Adam and Eve cave people as some compromising Christians would say? Do we pass off the fossil record with inaccuracies? Consider this; I read somewhere once that the fossil of “Neandrathal man” was actually a man with arthritis and I believed this until I learned from wintermute that there were more than 800 fossil specimins of Neandrathal man, all with the same characteristics. So we can’t just throw the fossil record away. We have to deal with the evidence to support the FACT that there have been creatures living on this earth which no longer exist. But are these creatures the precursors, missing links and all to modern man?

The question is, where does the evidence take us? That is the key!

Evolutionists look at Christians and say “Oh thats just your holy book!” and they poo poo anything we have to say with “There is no scientific evidence for your belief.” They ridicule us with stories about flying spaghetti monsters and tell us that those bible prophesies we are preaching about were written ‘after the fact’ and have been altered over the years to make them seem more factual than they are.

And so looking at the subject from an evidentiary standpoint we must ask ourselvesl Is this true? Are they right? Is Darwin right? Is Dawkins right?

Let’s turn to the evidence as we did with Evolution. As we do we discover (some closed minded Christian people would not agree) must admit that as there is real tangible evidence of creatures that used to walk the earth there is also an incredible amount of evidence for the authenticity and accuracy of the Bible. In fact, the Bible is the most carefully preserved document in history. Nothing else even comes close. There are 24,000 pieces of manuscript evidence for the New Testament alone and rather than 100’s of years after the fact, the earliest document was written within 25 years of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The manuscript evidence rises to over 40,000 pieces of manuscript evidence when you include the Old Testament.

Then there are the external historical documents such as the Assyrian Eponym List which corroborates events from the Old Testament along with Egyptian cuniform tablets which contained messages from the Canaanites who were under the Egyptian hegimony during the time when Israel was entering into the Promised Land. The Canaanites were pleading with the Egyptians for help against the Hebrews who were conquering the land. Egypt never did help since they were still recovering from the devastation of the plagues that God had leveled upon the land. This coupled with Archeological evidence proving the existence of many civilizations who are not around today such as the Hittites and the Amorites and others and the evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of the accuracy of the Biblical records.  And if the biblical records are accurate in one point, why be selective and say that they are not accurate in the rest.

Some would say that the Old Testament prophesies were written after the fact. Ok. What about the Septuagent? This is the Greek Translation of the Hebrew Old Testament which was written some 160 years before the time of Christ. This is a documented, indisputably historical fact. Ptolemy II Philadelphus who reigned from 285 to 246 B.C ordered the translation which contained the whole of the Old Testament. In this document we have in the Greek language the coming of the Messiah. These were not written after the fact. The Prophesies of the Messiah were fulfilled in a real, living, historical person by the name of Jesus Christ!

Ponder if you will, the mathematical probabilities of one man fulfilling just 8 of the Messianic prophesies.  The odds of one man fulfilling just 8 of them is 10 to the 17th power. Thats a one with 17 zeros after it. A well known illustration that gives us an idea of the odds that one man could fulfill just 8 of the more than 300 prophesies concerning the Messiah goes like this; Take 1o to the 17th power silver dollars and place them in the state of Texas. This many silver dollars will cover Texas to a depth of 2 feet. Mark one of the silver dolllars and place it anywhere you want and then mix all the coins up. Blindfold a man and tell him that he may go as far as he wants to before he picks one of the coins up but the coin he chooses must be the one with the mark. The odds of any one man fulfilling just 8 of the Messianic prophesies is the same odds of this blindfolded man choosing the right coin on the first try! 

And Jesus fulfilled all 300 of them to the letter.

And then consider that Jesus said; “I’ll Be Back!”

So the question we must ask ourselves is this; where does the evidence take us? Does it take you to the place where you believe that everything happened by chance…where you are left to speculate as to what the evidence represents… Here is where the evolutionist finds himself. He has looked at and analysed the evidence intensely and has come to the conclusion that there is no God, that the Earth as we know it exploded into existence, that life began very simply; lightning struck a mud puddle or self replicatiing cells came to earth on the backs of crystals, or an advanced race of people who evolved thus through Darwinian evolution came to earth and deposited some self replicating cells here…and thats how you and I came to be.

Or does the evidence take you to another place, a place where you see that there is a God who created all things, who upholds all things and who is coming back one day to conclude all things!

You can look at the stuff in the box, you can look at the particulars as Aristotle taught, or you can look to the Universals as Plato taught, or you can look further to One who created the Universals and the Particulars, who did so for His own pleasure and glory, who created mankind for Himself and who paid the ultimate price for their sins on a Roman cross 2000 years ago, who lives today and is even now calling you to come to your senses and escape the snare of the devil who has blinded you to the truth, caused you to look at anything else but the truth, who has indeed held you captive to do his will!

I have laid the truth at your feet. Look outside your window at the evidence all around you and you will see the handiwork of a loving Creator who is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance!

Consider the Evidence!

God Bless you!

Mike

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